1/13/2024 0 Comments Pandora them changes thundercat![]() You should pay us the respect we deserve. I have perfected my craft over thousands of hours you know. Now when you compare that with just firing up some website/app and getting on with your work, is that really better? I’m not seeing why you would just go to if I could have just made you a very nice, very special email reader. Get deliverables in a few weeks, hopefully. Sign some form of agreement, really easy, just read this 5 page document and maybe hire a lawyer if you are unsure. ![]() Bonus points if we don’t speak the same language. We will go back and forth over this, over the course of several days/weeks. Think of and propose in great detail what you want. Find me, which is easy, just become an amateur developer yourself and scour the various places I frequent Instead of turning to pre-made corporate software, you could just hire me or one of my developer friends? We’ll crank out something fine for you in no time flat. I haven't tried any AI stuff yet but I will next time. The availability of better tools to help non-musicians hack something together is greatly appreciated. ![]() So, homemade programmer art and music it is. But even stupid games need art and music. They deserve to be paid fairly for their work just like musicians, but I don't have it and it's just a stupid hobby game. I don't have the time or money to pay an artist. It comes out worse than if a real musician had made it, but getting a real musician was never really an option. I do my best to piece background music together using a chord progression app, descriptions of keys and the notes they contain from Google, and premade drum loops and instrument samples. Some of these games I write in a single sitting. I don't think it's even close it was never a serious consideration. Tackling the latter would likely exceed the entire effort I spent writing my little hobby game in the first place. There is an absolutely massive gulf between "free (or fixed list price) and immediate, just use these apps" and "locate a musician, bargain with them, pay, collaborate with them, wait for revisions, eventually get something usable (but not be 100% sure if I own the rights or not)." I wouldn't even know where to start I'm too far out of my league. It's never been easier to discover good new music to listen to with not much in the way of effort. My rate of "this is listenable and interesting and I'd like to come back " on Soundcloud is better than 1 in 25 on the worst day and better than 1 in a dozen on most, and the rate is often north of 1 in 6 for curated platforms like Pandora. ![]() If you really find 99.9% of existing material boring you're probably going to find a similar order of generated material boring. ML algorithms for recommendation are searching the preference space in much the same way ML generation would, they're just doing it over existing stuff. To the extent that sounding like everything else is a problem, how is ML generated music not going to have it?Īnd in general this isn't going to be a qualitative improvement in experience. There is _too_ much, and 99.9% is just boring to listen to, because it sounds like everything else. > It's not that there isn't enough electronic music being made, it's that every new track that lands on soundcloud is a drop in the ocean of mediocrity. Are music consumers really that desperate for new tunes? Frankly a lot of us just aren't seeing it. Another meme in the producer community is how one spends hundreds/thousands of hours perfecting ones craft, and dozens of hours working on a track, only for that track to get like 5 plays on soundcloud and negligible engagement elsewhere. While I'm asking follow ups, to all the folks who love digging for new music so much that they're considering turning to prompting AIs, I'd be seriously surprised if you've really checked out all the stuff that is coming out from new producers (again, reddit, soundcloud, etc). I'm willing to admit that I'm missing something here, but I'd love it if someone could enlighten me. Yes, I understand 1) free and 2) immediate is convenient, but isn't 1) relatively inexpensive and 2) whatever advantage intent in construction gives good too? I suspect that there are a significant number of producers who would be happy to take your "prompt" for a small fee. I ask because the music production scene is like.ridiculously saturated, and it's almost a meme in the producer community how hard it is to make even a buck producing. If so, could you say what your experience has been? Have any of you checked out / made offers on music production subreddits? Or other music subreddits? various music production discords? Elsewhere on the internet? Music producer here with an honest question to those saying "this will provide me with a simple soundtrack/background music for $PROJECT" But some of the motives in this thread confuse me.) (This is not meant to be an anti-ai-generated-art rant.
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